[zfs-discuss] zfs-discuss Digest, Vol 9, Issue 48

Gregor Kopka zfs-discuss at kopka.net
Tue Jan 19 07:58:50 EST 2016


You could try Gentoo with USE="-systemd", or Funtoo.

Gregor


Am 19.01.2016 um 13:19 schrieb Kostya Berger via zfs-discuss:
> "Only" systemd-infested distros? Can you mention any not from that
> category?
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>     On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 13:13, Mikko Tanner via zfs-discuss
>     <zfs-discuss at list.zfsonlinux.org> wrote:
>
>     This is only true of systemd-infested distros. Things have been
>     working perfectly well for as long as I remember with separate
>     filesystems. It is only until systemd's lazy coding and invented
>     problems that this has become an issue.
>
>     Not supporting separate filesystems (aka stuffing most of the
>     system in /usr) is a faulty design choice. There is no compelling
>     reason at all why /usr should be necessary for early boot -- /bin
>     and /sbin are there for a reason. Diverting from the basic POSIX
>     assumptions just for the sake of appeasing a certain distro's
>     design choices is fundamentally broken.
>
>     TL;DR - the issue here is systemd, nothing else.
>
>     BR,
>     Mikko Tanner
>
>     On 19.1.2016 9:37, zfs-discuss-request at list.zfsonlinux.org wrote:
>>     From:
>>     Gordan Bobic <gordan.bobic at gmail.com>
>>     Date:
>>     19.1.2016 7:07
>>
>>     To:
>>     "General discussion - ask questions, receive answers and advice
>>     from other ZFS users" <zfs-discuss at list.zfsonlinux.org>
>>
>>
>>     On your distro, is /sbin a symlink to /usr/sbin?
>>     If so, having a separate /usr simply isn't going to work, as I
>>     explained before. Initrd will get your rootfs mounted and perform
>>     a switchroot, but once it gets there, there will be no way to do
>>     anything because the new rootfs has no systemd, no mount.zfs, no
>>     zfs, or anything else. Even if the distro version you are running
>>     now isn't laid out like this (because it is an older version),
>>     all major distros are heading in this direction. Separate /usr is
>>     becoming completely unsupportable.
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